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						 Grant Cameron has a 
						new book out dealing with 
						MJ-12 and Area 51. Jerry and Grant discuss how area 51 
						became public knowledge back in 1989. Names of those who 
						came forward about the secret base are now UFO legend. 
						The base has been there since the 1950s but did not 
						become public until George Knapp and at least a couple 
						of talk show hosts where Jerry worked in Las Vegas 
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					 Grant Cameron and Jerry discuss a very interesting facet of media and UFO history- the saga of Frank Edwards, a high rated news and commentary host on the Mutual Broadcasting System in the late 40s and early 50s and his interest in UFOs. It may have cost him his sponsor and his job on Mutual but history shows that he probably did have the right information about UFO and ET visitations in the 50s in the US. (Originally broadcast December 3, 2012) 
						
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|  Grant Cameron -  April 9, 
						2012 - Long-time Jerry Pippin Show producer 
						Roberta Scott guest-hosted the show this week and the 
						guest was Grant Cameron.  Grant was quite candid in 
						revealing his transformation from being interested in 
						the political implications of UFOs into a broader 
						picture that involves spirituality and paranormal 
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Cameron tells Jerry how he became involved in Ufology. He tells about a personal 
sighting of an object, in May 1975, which locally became known as Charlie Red 
Star. The sighting occurred in Carman, Manitoba about 25 miles north of the 
Canada-US border. Hundreds of other people sighted objects at the same time 
during a prolonged flap of sightings. Over the next 18 months he had many 
sightings of large objects and small (monitor) objects in the area. He spent 
countless days in the area photographing a series of strange objects and 
interviewing hundreds of witnesses who were involved. Cameron tells Jerry how he 
has turned his research interests to the involvement and actions of the 
Presidents of the United States with UFOs. He has made several trips to the 
National Archives and most of the various Presidential archives looking for 
presidential UFO material. One highlight of this work was the chance to question 
Vice-president Dick Cheney on his knowledge of the UFO subject. He also found 
1,000 pages of UFO document from the Clinton administration during a FOIA 
(Freedom of Information Act) visit to the White House Office of Science and 
Technology. Many of these findings have been written up on The Presidents UFO 
Website. Cameron lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. (This 
interview recorded June 3, 2004)
Grant 
Cameron tells Jerry how he became involved in Ufology. He tells about a personal 
sighting of an object, in May 1975, which locally became known as Charlie Red 
Star. The sighting occurred in Carman, Manitoba about 25 miles north of the 
Canada-US border. Hundreds of other people sighted objects at the same time 
during a prolonged flap of sightings. Over the next 18 months he had many 
sightings of large objects and small (monitor) objects in the area. He spent 
countless days in the area photographing a series of strange objects and 
interviewing hundreds of witnesses who were involved. Cameron tells Jerry how he 
has turned his research interests to the involvement and actions of the 
Presidents of the United States with UFOs. He has made several trips to the 
National Archives and most of the various Presidential archives looking for 
presidential UFO material. One highlight of this work was the chance to question 
Vice-president Dick Cheney on his knowledge of the UFO subject. He also found 
1,000 pages of UFO document from the Clinton administration during a FOIA 
(Freedom of Information Act) visit to the White House Office of Science and 
Technology. Many of these findings have been written up on The Presidents UFO 
Website. Cameron lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. (This 
interview recorded June 3, 2004)
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